English Translation of Heise.de Article
Linux.com has a nice English translation of the article referenced in this post from Wednesday. Here are a couple excerpts:
By mid-2012, at the latest, 80 percent of the 14,000 computers in the city administration will be moved to be Linux. Even much earlier, by the end of this year, all City Hall employees will be leaving Microsoft Word, Excel and Microsoft Internet Explorer and moving to free software, such as OpenOffice and the open-source Firefox Web browser.
In the short-term, no money was saved with the change-over. To the contrary, the city had to absorb one-time upfront costs of 13 million Euros for the Linux Munich "LiMux" project...According to vice director Schießl, an upgrade of the then-existing Windows NT4 operating system to Windows XP would have been as much as two million euros cheaper. The change-over will make financial sense only after several years, by avoiding the payment of on-going licensing fees.
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posted by limuxwatch @ 11:28 AM
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23 Comments:
"the city had to absorb one-time upfront costs of 13 million Euros for the Linux Munich "LiMux" project"
Wishful thinking! Wonder how they'll describe it next time they encounter a "one-time upfront cost", like employee training or replacing incompatible equipment.
Factoring an average $500 per machine licensing cost (which I believe to be way high if we're moving to OpenOffice anyway, which is also available for Windows) and five year amortization, software maintenance of 14,000 machines comes to $1.4 million yearly. This gives Linux a budget of $100 per year per machine freed by licensing costs. Banking that desktop Linux will cost less than $100 yearly in extraordinary support is optimistic, to put it kindly.
Came over here from the Linux Hater's Blog. Great work, makes for a very enjoyable (though facepalm-ridden) read.
Indeed, this is somewhat oversighted blog that should be more popular.
Linux isn't about Money.
Who wants to bet Open Office will be discontinued by 2012?
"Linux usn't about Money."
You're right, it's about blind hatred of a successful corporation.
What a bunch of ignorants. I'm out of here.
Indeed, this is somewhat oversighted blog that should be more popular.
Well, it made the Slashdot comments a few hours ago. They all think it's a "Microsoft sponsored troll site with a hidden agenda." Don't know how LiMux Watch could make its mission statement any clearer.
The best part is the backpedaling. "This isn't about saving money! It's freedom!" Yeah, instead of being a slave to evil foreign interest Microsoft, Germany can be a slave to their tax dollar eating alternative. Freedom!
@OP: who are you? your profile isn't really informative.. and the contents of your "articles" seem to be at or below "troll" level.. Which makes it really hard to take this site seriously.
What's the Linux crowd's obsessions with identities? Y'all always want mailing addresses, phone numbers, and key signing parties where everyone brings their driver's licenses. Just debate the merits and quit taking the quick route to personal attacks.
Who gives a shit about who he is? He could be a city worker that wants to remain anonymous so he can keep his job.
Yes slashdotters would love to get his real name so they can defame him publicly since we all know that pushing linux based on merits is too much work for them.
The fact that slashdot crowd has to resort to black ops tactics to push software that costs $0 tells you how overrated linux really is.
This blog is awesome. I also just found it today via the Slashdot story about this very project. Keep it up and thank you!
You're right, it's about blind hatred of a successful corporation. Hatred doesn't create anything, buddy.
Who gives a shit about who he is? He could be a city worker that wants to remain anonymous so he can keep his job.
I give, since he already spins two sources of his in a negative way. The latest Munich transition to linux article clearly declares it a success (this guy claims it's a failure for some reason he doesn't state), and the 2008 delay is attributed to reluctance of the employees to change old habits (this guy said that the employees were unhappy with the change to Linux; classic PR spin). In short, this guy is paid for this, and LH's link here means that he's participating in an effort to start an astroturfing campaign against linux on the desktop. I wouldn't expect the jerkface to be missing from this, considering his last experience arguing about the LiMux project...
*loud absurdly badly hidden laugh*
"In short, this guy is paid for this, and LH's link here means that he's participating in an effort to start an astroturfing campaign against linux on the desktop"
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! :p
Learn to recieve critizm! b*tches! :D
Learn to recieve critizm! b*tches! :D
Criticism is fine, I don't like lies, though.
Yeah, because saying he is being paid for this is the truth.
Yeah, because saying he is being paid for this is the truth.
Give me one good reason someone would present Linux successes as failure, and spin the sources.
I don't know, I don't like lies so I won't speak about that matter.
"Give me one good reason someone would present Linux successes as failure, and spin the sources."
because their definition of "success" is that the user is more productive with the new product and, ideally, likes it. it fails if the user doesnt like it since the user will probably become less productive as their frustration increases.
an unwillingness to change is pretty much the same as being unhappy with change. so, its easy to conclude that the users arent being as productive since theyre unwilling to learn how to use the new system.
thus, failure.
i dont see how this is a "spin" that only a paid PR guy would pull out.
All these linux-hater-blogs fail to mention the real reason Linux isn't widespread: Because only nerds care about their OS. 90% of people don't give a sh*t about what OS they use, they probably don't even know.
Yeah, give them Windows 95 or freeDOS and 90% of people won't give a damn.
@ Anonymous, June 29, 2009 8:23 AM:
I give, since he already spins two sources of his in a negative way. The latest Munich transition to linux article clearly declares it a success (this guy claims it's a failure for some reason he doesn't state), and the 2008 delay is attributed to reluctance of the employees to change old habits (this guy said that the employees were unhappy with the change to Linux; classic PR spin).
So, what, there's no way Florian Schiessl, the leader of this death march to Linux adoption, could be biased? There's no way he's putting the 'classic PR spin' on things? That's practically his job, you know. And just because an article declares something to be a success doesn't actually make it so. Look at Paul Thurrott - he practically declares everything MS produces as a blowjob from Christ himself, but I think even the Linux haters out there can agree that's far from the truth.
Additionally, regarding changing habits - a good transition would minimise this. Stories abound of how MS convinced people to switch to Office by basically recreating workflows and then, on top of that, adding new functionality. If this was a successful transition, there would be little impact to users. They could still accomplish the same things in the same way, but the stuff happening behind the scenes would be different. Instead, they basically said, "Take everything that you're used to and that you're being productive under, and throw it out the window - start all over learning something new." Learning is not bad, but especially in this instance, it's basically Euros sprouting wings and flying away.
In short, this guy is paid for this, and LH's link here means that he's participating in an effort to start an astroturfing campaign against linux on the desktop.
Again with the astroturfing crap? Really? You honestly think Microsoft is going to pay money to 'debate with' you clowns on a blog that doesn't even get the readership of the majority of your measly 1% of desktop market penetration?
If so, where the hell do I sign up?
Great article...
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